Ray Allen Just Got Traded to the Celtics :|

for Delonte West, the 5 pick (Jeff Green), and Wally S (I'm not even gonna try)

im happy with it, ray allen and paul pierce doin work this year, i will miss delonte though

im happy with it, ray allen and paul pierce doin work this year, i will miss delonte though

BeanTownBrown86

Gave up too much to get an aging player. Danny Ainge contiues to demonstrate his lack of knowledge when handling personel. I have never seen the Celtics franchise as low as it is right now, and there's not end in sight. piper77

are you crazy? allen had his highest ppg ever last season. granted, he missed like 25 games and might be a little injury prone, but he's still one of the best shooters in the league.

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im happy with it, ray allen and paul pierce doin work this year, i will miss delonte though

NetYankEagle

I agree. Unless they trade Pierce, this is a bad move.

[QUOTE="piper77"]Gave up too much to get an aging player. Danny Ainge contiues to demonstrate his lack of knowledge when handling personel. I have never seen the Celtics franchise as low as it is right now, and there's not end in sight. romocop33

are you crazy? allen had his highest ppg ever last season. granted, he missed like 25 games and might be a little injury prone, but he's still one of the best shooters in the league.

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[QUOTE="piper77"]Gave up too much to get an aging player. Danny Ainge contiues to demonstrate his lack of knowledge when handling personel. I have never seen the Celtics franchise as low as it is right now, and there's not end in sight. NetYankEagle

are you crazy? allen had his highest ppg ever last season. granted, he missed like 25 games and might be a little injury prone, but he's still one of the best shooters in the league.

actually allen missed more games than lewis did last season. lewis missed 22 to allen's 27.

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[QUOTE="piper77"]Gave up too much to get an aging player. Danny Ainge contiues to demonstrate his lack of knowledge when handling personel. I have never seen the Celtics franchise as low as it is right now, and there's not end in sight. romocop33

are you crazy? allen had his highest ppg ever last season. granted, he missed like 25 games and might be a little injury prone, but he's still one of the best shooters in the league.

actually allen missed more games than lewis did last season. lewis missed 22 to allen's 27.

Celts are missing the huge man in the middle. They should have picked Yi. I bet Allen won't be on the team in the next couple of years. You have to think about the future, because Paul Pierce isn't going to be around forever. piper77

G-West

G-Davis

F-Pierce

F-Jefferson

C-Yi

would have been a hell of a team

It's not an ideal fit at first glance but for what we gave up (not all that much besides the pick) I like it. Really would have liked it if Robert Swift was coming back as well, but guess that wasn't happening.

Jefferson in the paint, Pierce the slasher, Allen on the perimiter. Not great defensively but not a bad trio for the East. Ray Allen is still super nice and in his prime, he's going to be a high caliber player for at least another 4-5 years. Same for Pierce.

Now Danny needs to turn Theo's contract, Gerald Green and a future pick into another complimentary vet. I don't think the offseason is over for Boston quite yet.

It's not an ideal fit at first glance but for what we gave up (not all that much besides the pick) I like it. Really would have liked it if Robert Swift was coming back as well, but guess that wasn't happening.

Jefferson in the paint, Pierce the slasher, Allen on the perimiter. Not great defensively but not a bad trio for the East. Ray Allen is still super nice and in his prime, he's going to be a high caliber player for at least another 4-5 years. Same for Pierce.

Now Danny needs to turn Theo's contract, Gerald Green and a future pick into another complimentary vet. I don't think the offseason is over for Boston quite yet.

viberooni

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It's not an ideal fit at first glance but for what we gave up (not all that much besides the pick) I like it. Really would have liked it if Robert Swift was coming back as well, but guess that wasn't happening.

Jefferson in the paint, Pierce the slasher, Allen on the perimiter. Not great defensively but not a bad trio for the East. Ray Allen is still super nice and in his prime, he's going to be a high caliber player for at least another 4-5 years. Same for Pierce.

Now Danny needs to turn Theo's contract, Gerald Green and a future pick into another complimentary vet. I don't think the offseason is over for Boston quite yet.

NetYankEagle

Reggie Miller was older than 38 when he retired, you don't forget how to shoot the ball. Allen's skills should translate nicely as he gets older.

Anyway he's got 3 years left on his contract. I see this as the first step of management trying to take advantage of this 3-4 year window of Pierce's prime, and for that time period Allen should be a beast in the East as long as he's healthy.

Great trade in my opinion.

great trade.............for the sonics. celtics just got knocked out first by not getting first or second pick and now by the sonics teabagging that franchise. celtics have no clue what to do and if i was a celtics fan i would probably just walk away. or go to games and get people to walk out or wear bag on my head. celtics = worst draft ever. this draft is as bad is portland taking sam bowie over MJxbox360isgr8t

Look I'll agree that Danny Ainge is making this up as he goes along, but how is this not at least a fair trade? The Sonics get a decent backup combo guard with personality, a one dimensional wing with a bad contract, and a solid rookie that could have gone anywhere from 5-10 in the draft.

Boston gets a 7 time all-star in Ray Allen, a great character guy and one of the best SG's in the league. Just turned 32 and coming off one of the best statistical seasons of his career. He's not over the hill yet - Steve Nash is 33, Jason Kidd is 34, Rasheed Wallace is turning 33, these guys can still play. Plus we kept all our best young players (and Ratliff's expiring contract) and picked up first round talent in the second round.

The team is far from finished - Celtics still need a veteran PG, another center and DEFENSE. I probably would have picked Corey Brewer if I were GM. But there's no way this trade was horrible unless Allen becomes only a shell of his former self in a Celtics uniform, and there's no way to know that right now.

no doubt it was a better trade for the sonics.

for the celtics, i like what Screamin A. Smith said, there's no way they're gonna be major contenders in 08, so might as well get fans to fill the seats and make more money.

[QUOTE="piper77"]Celts are missing the huge man in the middle. They should have picked Yi. I bet Allen won't be on the team in the next couple of years. You have to think about the future, because Paul Pierce isn't going to be around forever. NetYankEagle

G-West

G-Davis

F-Pierce

F-Jefferson

C-Yi

would have been a hell of a team

:lol: Yi as the center? He's aforward that can shoot, he's not physical enough to handle the center position....

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[QUOTE="piper77"]Celts are missing the huge man in the middle. They should have picked Yi. I bet Allen won't be on the team in the next couple of years. You have to think about the future, because Paul Pierce isn't going to be around forever. Ngamer05

G-West

G-Davis

F-Pierce

F-Jefferson

C-Yi

would have been a hell of a team

:lol: Yi as the center? He's aforward that can shoot, he's not physical enough to handle the center position....

He's big enough to fill in center or at least, add size up front. Celts have shooters, but can't defend the ball. We needed that extra huge body in there to fill in the gaps, now we still need the huge body to fill in the gaps. We gained nothing with the trade, and I think the Sonics is going to have a better team as soon as next year, and maybe be championship caliber in a couple of years.

for the celtics, i like what Screamin A. Smith said, there's no way they're gonna be major contenders in 08, so might as well get fans to fill the seats and make more money.

Steven A Smith is annoying, and I can't stand the guy. The fans aren't going to fill in the seats if we keep having losing seasons. They want a winner, not superstars.

Gained nothing? We turned Wally Sczcerbiak's contract and Delonte West's minutes into Ray Allen, still one of the premier pure SG's in the league. We gave Paul the best player he's ever played with, same goes for Ray. And we kept all our major chips for future trades or just the future in general, plus remained fairly flexible with salary (Ray and PP both expire in 3 years, thats alot of expiring contract money).

This team is unfinished, but with one or two more moves I can really see something emerging that can contend in the East for the next 3-4 years. Yi is a 7' SF right now and a question mark, especially if your concern is defending the ball. I was never completely sold on anyone available at 5, and if we picked there I was resigned to trading Paul Pierce and really being terrible next season in all out rebuild mode. We took it in the other direction, so hopefully we make a few more moves that and really try to make some noise in the next 2-3 years.

After some time I think we made a good trade. We got the best player by far without giving up much at all, and I'm willing to give management a pass until the season's roster is fully set before passing final judgement on the offseason. Time wil tell.

I guess we'll have to wait and see how things will ultimately pan out, but I feel as if Ainge had to make a move and get some additional verteran leadership and scoring help for Paul Pierce. Initially I thought this was a decent trade, but giving up Delonte AND the 5th pick in the draft is too much for my liking. In a couple of years, this trade will prove to be a horrible move for the franchise as Ray Allen and Pierce will both have most likely moved on...Delonte will continue to improve and shine on a re-vamped Sonics team and Big Al will be left all alone. Like I thought before, Ainge does not know what he's doing and he's screwing up the team...either take a five year hiatus and rebuild or get the talent needed to produce results...you can't do both...Ray Allen will not get this team a championship ring...maybe a playoff birth due to the lack of competition in the eastern conference...desperate actions rarely yield successful results...